
Had coffee with Sushi Fanatic this afternoon. It went well. I got there 5 minutes early and felt self-conscious when he wasn't there, so I went on ahead and ordered a tea for myself. He arrived a few minutes later and I think he felt slighted that I'd ordered and paid for myself... like I was trying to make some sort of statement that I wasn't trying to make.
Anyway, he looks nothing like his photo. In fact, he looks ten years older than he does in his photos(!), which is odd since he's only 25. He mentioned that someone joked that he was aging quickly and needed to start taking care of himself. I guess his job is really stressful. He's not HOT at all anymore, he's about average, which is fine by me because I'm average, too.
PLUSES: He does not think my agnosticism will lead me to hell. In fact, he admitted he's a little conflicted since he was a Biology major and believes in facts, and has noticed that many of those facts contradict blah blah blah. I think he's a closet Agnostic, but will never commit to that, which is fine. It's fine to believe whatever you want as long as you don't ignore facts. Also, he asked me if his texts were starting to annoy me. He was really blowing up my phone all week with them, and I tried to be patient and courteous about it, but I guess my annoyance showed. I admitted they were a bit much, we laughed about it, and he promised he'd curb them a bit (but he just texted me again at 11:15 p.m., so I dunno...)
Minuses: first date was a freaging coffee shop. Cheap-o. I should have never accepted a date within a few days of the invitation. But I wanted to get it out of the way since I thought he was just going to be hot. Anyway, he invited me out next Thursday night, presumably for dinner, so I guess I passed his little test. I accepted his invitation, but right now I'm having second thoughts. I mean, he's also thinking about switching careers... going to dental school or teaching pro golf. I don't think he's found his path in life, and isn't settled. Seems preoccupied with how often I accept subbing work, so I think my finances (or lack thereof) are going to be an issue. And finally, he doesn't know if he wants kids or not. Says he hasn't thought of it either way, although his profile says he wants two. My worry is that we settle down together and ten years down the road he decides he wants kids, so dumps me. And finding a man at 40 might not be as easy. So I'd rather stick with someone who knows what he wants for sure, and it's in-line with my own goals. But he's so nice and we had a great conversation, so it's hard to let him go! I don't know if I'll have the strength to break up with him. But I am really tired, so cuts are kind of necessary... especially since he blows up my phone so much. I should make a decision fast, before next Thursday rolls around...


About my dinner tomorrow with the Muffin Man Enforcer... I'm a little "meh" about the whole thing. I was excited because he was ponying up for dinner, but then tonight he asked me to come out to Brea for a sushi dinner. Men who ask you to come to their turf on a first date (for no good reason) end up being total turds. It's like a cardinal rule, always. I swear, every time I break one of "The Rules", I end up being treated like this. I should have never emailed him on a Friday night, fuck me. I'm really kicking myself now. He's taking me for granted. And the last thing he says to me is, "Oh, and tomorrow, just casual." Me: "Oh, so no dresses?" Him: "No prom dresses, no wedding dresses, just casual, be comfortable." So, I'm a little lost as to what to wear. I was going to wear a cute dress, but now I don't know. And honestly, it seemed a little bossy, telling me what to wear! Why don't you just explain the restaurant to me and let me decide what's appropriate? Not what you prefer? If he's controlling, I swear to God...
AND he wants me to drive directly to his house address. I said, "Uh, no offense, but I don't go to guys' houses on a first- I just think it's better to meet at a restaurant." And he explained that he lives in the middle of the city and the restaurants and everything are right across the street. He's going to give me the information to a parking garage by his place and meet me there and then we'll cross the street and walk around the town center, I guess. The whole thing seems a little weird. He laughed at my implications and I said, "Just standard operating procedure here. It's just how I roll." He laughed that he understood and respected that, and assured me I wouldn't be entering his house or anything. But still, meeting me in a parking lot seems a little weird, too. And if I were him, and a woman expressed any sort of concern, I wouldn't try to wave it away, I'd agree to what she asked, to make her feel more comfortable. Because when I asked him the name of the restaurant- twice- both times, the subject was changed. I still don't know where we're purportedly going. And if it's a real sushi restaurant- even the cheap all you can eat sushi restaurants- why would you tell me not to dress up? Wearing a dress in a sushi restaurant would not be out of place.
I don't know. I guess I'll feel out the situation when I get there. If it's secluded and/or the attendant isn't in sight AND yelling distance, fuck him, I'm not getting out of the car. But when I think about it, in the same conversation he made some joke about going out in the field today and bringing his taser, hoping to use it, and being disappointed that he didn't get the chance to. Ha ha, funny? My gut is telling me I need to cancel. I'm frankly a little nervous right now.

I've spoken with Mr. Show Biz a few times within the last week. We were going to just do coffee, but now he's decided he wants to think of a fun activity to do on Monday afternoon. He asked me to pick a time, and then he would pick the activity. And he's coming down to Long Beach, which is great. He's really too good to be true. I already know what our problem will probably be. He's also preoccupied with how much work I get and how often I accept jobs. I think he's trying to figure out my financial situation. And when he finally does, he's going to be SOOO out of here. He's going to run so fast!
I get really worried about juggling all these men, but the cold, hard truth is that after they find out that: 1. I'm juggling a lot of suitors here, 2. I'm not sleeping with any of them for at least 3 months (and definitely not until I've at least narrowed it down to one guy) and will require that we go down and get tested together before doing the deed, 3. my finances are hellacious, and 4. I'm not too worried about my credit score, I'll be lucky if there's even one man left standing.
Have a great Memorial Day weekend. Make love (after 3 months), not war!

If your gut is making you nervous about Muffin, go with your gut and cancel. He seems weird, and it does feel like something's off about him.
ReplyDeleteI think what you're slowly realizing is that women on Match.com are going to be overwhelmed with suitors. You can afford to be picky, and I think you should be honest about your income level in your profile. You don't want a guy who cares about your financial situation - that guy is immediately an asshole.
Exactly what Avitable said. I understand some of the guys not wanting a "gold digger" or someone looking to be taken care of financially, but it shouldn't be on the forefront in the beginning of a relationship. I went on a first date with someone last night (I think it went well? with someone on her own, with clear goals, but is struggling financially in the same way that I am. Do I care? Not in the slightest. I'm still getting to know her, and that part of her life does not affect my decision in the slightest as to whether I want to pursue things further.
ReplyDeleteAlso, kudos to your "3 Month Rule." I think the reason the date last night worked for me is that its the first time in awhile that I wasn't trying to be coerced into sex the first date (SERIOUSLY. WTF.). I connect emotion and sex together, and can't separate them, so I have to feel a connection to the person first, because if I'm going to take the "sex" step, I know at that point that I'm OK falling.
The Muffin Man Enforcer situation seems sketchy, not in an "attacked" kind of way but a pushy kind of way. I think you should save yourself the drive, but that's just my opinion:)
Hey Avitable, Thanks for the support. I emailed him this morning to cancel our date, after writing the blog and speaking with my sister about him. He smelled a little fishy to her, too. Just too many oddities and curiosities about our exchange.
ReplyDeleteI was really surprised to read what you wrote about how classy guys view financial situations (or don't). I could understand why a guy wouldn't want to get involved with someone with bad credit if it was important to him to keep his up. I get that, but it gives me hope now that I know that you and Rob think otherwise!
Rob: Wow, sounds like you have some randy women in your pocket! No one's even ever tried to sleep with me on a first date, so your news shocks me. I think I cut them off with my cheek kiss, so they know what time it is! I guess we're all wired differently. I have a lot of forward women friends, and part of me envies them that they're able to enjoy it without being emotionally connected, but I know myself and how I'm wired, and to thine own self be true.
There are times, briefly, where I envy males that can do the same thing. But in the end I wouldn't give it up:)
ReplyDeleteYou do understand that dating or even marrying a woman with bad credit in no way affects your credit, right?
ReplyDeleteSo if I have excellent credit, the only way that I could be affected would be if I put my name on a credit card with someone who had bad credit, and then neither of us paid it. But the history of bad credit would not negatively affect me in the slightest.
That's why I think men who might care about your financial situation are shallow. LA is filled with people who live in shitty apartments and spend all of their money on their car and their outward appearance so it looks like they have more than they do. Lots of very shallow people that aren't worth your time.
Good for you, Rob!
ReplyDeleteAvitable: Yeah, I get that, but I think that some guys are thinking that they want a girl they can settle down with and marry and buy a house together, and if my credit sucks, it's harder to get a loan for the house or something...? It would have to be completely in their name, I suppose. It would diffuse their burden and general responsibility if they knew I could shoulder some of the weight better. I assume that's where they're coming from, but I really have no idea!
And I totally agree on the outward appearance comment... I get so many surprised looks because I drive a shitty car (let's just say 1990. Enough said.). I could get a nice one on loan or lease, but that's really the last thing I need.
There is something fishy about The Enforcer and I am glad that you gave him the boot. I didn't care for his taser comment, and the fact that you felt nervous about meeting up with him in a parking garage is a huge red flag. My inner Oprah says that he has control issues and wife-beater potential.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting to read the male perspective on finances and credit (I like what I'm reading!). At first I didn't read too much into his questions about your financial/employment situation, but after giving it more thought, I realized that it is weird and shallow of him to have such a hang up about it. I don't know what his deal is, but I really don't feel like he's the right guy for you.
It sounds like you had fun with Sushi Fanatic! If you enjoy his company, I think you should throw caution to the wind and see him again.
Yeah, I hated the taser comment, too, Kara. Who finds glee in hurting another person? It's so sadistic and twisted.
ReplyDeleteYeah, isn't it refreshing to hear that a woman's financial situation may be overlooked?
Sushi Guy is great... an update on that is we're going to keep talking as friends. His email was very persuasive! I've shut the door for now, but I haven't locked it. I'm focusing on other guys, but will continue to get to know him better.
May the muffin man return to Strawberry Ln. and stay there. Sayanara!
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that Sushi wasn't hot... that seemed to be his main appeal! As you would say- NEXT!
Oh, Booga: Strawberry Lane- YOU're a gas! Sushi was hot on the inside... and that's what counts ; ) But yeah, not compatible.
ReplyDeleteOkay 1st comment is that I think people who aren't sure if they want kids most often end up wanting them or apathetically having them. Especially a 25-year-old guy. Most 25 year old guys are don't really know what they want. 2nd - I agree with Avitable - follow your guts. That's what every expert says when the topic on Oprah is about women who've been attacked. And the woman ALWAYS says she ignored her instinct. I say God gives us guts for a reason. Humans are the only animals who ignore thier fear. Every other animal who senses troubles gets the heck out of Dodge. Anywho, this post is soooo late cuz I've been out of the country. So you may already be someone's lampshade by now. But just in case....
ReplyDeleteRita: Agreed. He's totally on the road to kidsville! Unless you know definitively that you don't want 'em, chances are, you're gonna have at least one. LOL, someone's lampshade by now ; ) It puts the lotion in the basket!
ReplyDeleteRita: P.S. Can't wait to hear about your international escapades ; )
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